I think that the most reliable test method would be experimentation with this study, although unethical. It would give complete control over the subject by controlling the variables leaving no room for a bad correlation. By controlling a group of smokers, how much they smoke, when they smoke, and having the same performance to start with in each group and the kind of smoking they do would decrease the amount of bad data and increase the datas validity. This method is a little unethical because the experiment involves either finding teens with the same performance that smoke or do not smoke or controlling a group of all non-smokers and control who smoke which is unethical making teens smoke. - Jasmine Shaver
I would put camera's in all the spots where kids go to smoke i.e. the revere bridge, the pathway to the middle school... When we see who smokes then we can monitor their performance in school and compare that to non-smoker students who are in similar classes.
Meh...if you start saying theres a control group and variable group i think it would change the outcome slightly from the actualy outcome. if students know they are being monitored for smoking and how it relates to their school work. students may or may not try harder and study more because they are under watch. I dont really think there is a relaible way to conduct research on this matter. sorry my comments doesn't help much =[[[[[[
The most reliable research method would probably be taking the students who are smokers and observe their performance inside the classroom. Then compare the data you receive from that study to the data you get from observing students who don't smoke. I think this study is ethical because none of the students are being forced to smoke or do anything new to them; they are just being observed inside the classroom.
The best research method would be to analyze the performance of kids over 18 who legally smoke and compare their performance to a control group of non-smokers over 18 years old. This way, age is controlled and only kids who already smoke are being asked to smoke. This is ethical because kids are not being asked to do something that they do not want to do. -Rahul
The best way to find out if teenage smoking leads to poor performance is school is to allow students to take an anonymous survey. The survey will ask questions like if the student smokes and how often etc. The student will also be asked to put down their current GPA or cumulative GPA. This way you can compare the two statistics. This is ethical because it in no way harms the student. --VAL
I'd say that the best way would be to observe the smokers vs. nonsmokers in the classroom. You could compare test scores, grades, and overall effectiveness in the class. This way is ethical because it doesn't harm the student.
In this senario, it would be ideal to use a comibnation of the naturalistic observation method and the laboratory (clinical) observation technique. This could be done if the researchers were able to control which students they were putting in their group by monitioring thr students in their own environments while the students are unaware,infact, maybe the teacher could get invovlved. Therefore, they would be able to see who is successful and who isn't when it comes to academics. Then from these groups of successors and failures, the researchers may run tests in order to find out who smokes and the effects it has on them. Essentially this comibnation of methods in ethical becuase they are not impacting or affecting how the kids act in school and the research based on smoking is not making them smoke, it's just monitoring how it may correlate to their school work if they do. -mike majcher-
A naturalistic approach would be the best method in determining whether smoking inhibits a teen's performance in school. This is because, if a teenager is aware that he or she is being observed he or she may try harder in school than usual. The observers should select a population of smoking and non smoking teenagers of the same age and compare their test scores, GPAs, and attendance over a period of time. This method is ethical because the smoking teenagers are already currently smokers, so they are not being forced to take up smoking. This method is also ethical as long as the student's GPAs etc... are kept confidential to the observers and not the public. --Renee Smith
The best way to find out if smoking effects a students performance in school is to have a private survey to determine who smokes and how often they do it. Then look at the classes they take and the grades they acheive. The approach is ethical since the survey will be kept private for research only and does not harm anyone. -Stephanie Howell
The best way to research this topic would be in a naturalistic observation. This way the smokers do not know they are being watched and they will not change how much, where, what, and when they smoke. After careful observation, the observers should choose a group of smokers and non smokers to compare their academic performance in school. I would say this approach is ethical because it does not harm a student in any way. - Brenda G.
you could use any kind of grading comparison with smokers vs non smokers because it then in no way can harm the student/ test subjects, making the expirement completly ethical.
i would perform anonymos surveys to find out what kids in high school smoke... then i would monitor how those kids do in school compared to the kids that dont smoke. I think its ethical because it wont harm the student or effect him/her in anyway, plus they shouldnt be smoking in the first place. -Christian Klinec
You need to use naturalistic observation because there aren't any variables to control and people lie on surveys. It's ethical because you're just capitalizing on them already smoking. You haven't influenced them to smoke.
In order to conduct a valid and true experiment, you would need to come up with a way to find teenage smokers without them knowing so it wouldn't sway the results of the experiment. After you find the teenagers, you could monitor their grades and performance in the classroom to determine if the statement is true. This would be a naturalistic approach because the teenagers are being tested without being aware and going about their everyday business. I don't think this is very ethical, though, because teens aren't supposed to smoke, and some people analyzing the results may feel that the teens should have been punished. Also, grades and school performance are confidential, and this could be a intrusion of privacy. ---Rachael Coleman
I would poll first to determine what the smoking population was, and then compare grades of non-smokers to smokers to see if there was a noticeable pattern or difference between the grades. This is ethical although it's likely illegal for most high schoolers to be smoking. As long as the survey is anonymous, then privacy won't be invaded. ---Kurt Russell
It seems that there are two problems that must be solved to correctly obtain the information we desire. First, we must separate the smokers from the non-smokers without defying any student's rights. Secondly, we must find a way to obtain the grades of both smokers and non-smokers, again, without denying them their rights to privacy. Foruntately, both of these problems can be solved if the students, themselves, give you the information willingly. For this reason, I propose the survey technique. The anonymous survey can ask the students if they smoke or not and what approximate GPA they receive. It is true that the survey is probably the least reliable method and some students could lie. However, the false information should not conflict too greatly with your overall conclusion. Plus, this is the most ethical way to protect the student's right to privacy.
I believe the best way to determine if teenage smokers tend to have poor performances in school would be for a teacher of a class consisting of students from the same grade to pass out a survey in the beginning of the year. The survey would ask if the teen smokes and if so, how often. They could split the results into three groups: nonsmokers, mild smokers, and heavy smokers. Throughout the year pay attention to their attendance, test results, and tendency to finish homework. This way it is easier to see how much smoking can affect a school performance. Also it is ethical because you are simply observing and not forcing the students to do anything unwillingly. -Taylor T
The most reliable research method would be the clinical method. In this you can make it ethical by controlling the age of the student. You can take all the people over 18 so its legal and compare the hard-core smokers' grades vs. the once-in-a-while smokers' grades vs. the non smokers' grades. This will be ethical because all the students are legally allowed to do it. Andy Heitmann
I beleive that the most accurate and ethical way to guage this type of debate would be to randomly select 18 and 19 year olds enrolled in high school or college, a certain number who don't smoke and the same number of daily smokers, from all different races, living areas, and family history, and monitor their scores in similar classes. This naturalistic method would bring out the natural performance of the subjects, which could be altered during a clinical or experimental approach, while covering all kinds of backgrounds of the subjects who can legally smoke. This is ethical because the student is not affected at all, so nothing negative will impact them, and also because the study is purely informational, there is no damage done by looking at their grades.
I believe that the best way to determine whether teenage smoking can lead to poor performance in school is to conduct a clinical observation where some variables are controlled. I would obtain a sample of 50 teenagers with similar IQ levels and scholastic abilities and i would make half of them smoke for a period of time, and then i would make the other half abstain from smoking. I would also have the students take all of the same classes with the same teachers. Then, i would obtain their grades, and if the smokers had a substantially lower grade average compared to the non-smokers,i would say that smoking does indeed lead to poor performance in school. HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH THIS METHOD OF OBSERAVATION IS THE MOST RELIABLE, IT IS EXTREMELY UNETHICAL! Therefore, a naturalistic observation or a survey would have to suffice.
I believe the best way to find out if smoking leads to poor performance in school is through naturalistic observation. We could set up a camera in the bathroom to find out who's smoking. Then, send a "student teacher" to see how well they're doing in school. That was they won't know they're being observed, so it won't change their performance in school.
I think the best method in this study would be to use students, who pass the age to smoke, and compare that to teens who do not smoke(having the same number of participants). Taking the two measurements of both the smokers and non-smokers can then be compared. It is ethical because in this method, we are using teens who are legally allowed to smoke. Though other extraneous factors may lead to an answer not 100% accurate,its still ethical.
On Val's idea of a survery. You can survey if the student is a smoker or not, also obtain their GPA and such, but you cant gather when they started smoking or if it did affect their GPA. Moreover, if they are smokers it might be a cuase of poor grades, but maybe theres a reason why they started smoking, like family issues or friends; then it would the family issues or friends that are producing that student with poor grades. To Zouga, sure you can observe them in class =/ but being there as an observer will affect how they will be behave and thus changing the data. Rahul's idea of using students that are 18 years of age, is okai to start with. But most kids that age are seniors and usually senior year is not as important as the previous 3 years where colleges focuses on. Colleges that does focus on all four years will be picking 4-5 GPA students who are most likey not smokers. Rachel...just ehh. you can get data from their grades yes, but how will you kno who are the smokers and who aren't smokers. Just because a kid does poorly doesnt mean s/he smokes. To Mike M. i like your way ;D thumbs up but still how will you kno which one are smokers or not smokers untill you cross the line or a researcher and stalker x_x;; then uhhh getting the subjects in a ethical way is question =X
Just adding on to liz's idea of camera in bathroom. um camera in bathroom that crosses some lines. and student who smokes in the school bathroom obviously arent using their brain to begin with. and just becuz you kno that student is a smoker you still need to kno when he or she started smoking to see if his or her grades were affected or not.
A survey to me seems like the only way. Even if there are going to be misleading data but that shouldnt change the outcome too much. As long as the one or group create the appropriate questions on the survery. I.E. are you smoker or not? if so, for how long. Did it affect your grades. Did your grades alter becauce of smoking or another factor. and have this survey sent a below average class, average class, and accelerated class to 5-10 schools per state. and this survery can be made either state level national level or golbal level. It's ethical because you arent forcing the student to take this survery so it will be on their own free will. I myself dont approve of this method much =X but it seems like the only option.
I would say that the best way and the most ethical would be to just observe the students naturally. Figure out what students smoke and compare there grades over the years to the students that do not.
An ethical way to study this is by observing a student that is a regular smoker and a student that is not. If you can find out when the smoker started smoking, that would help. However, you would also have to take in the details, such as what kind of people the smoker hangs out with because stereotypically, students who smoke do other things that can affect their grades.
The most effective way to go about doing this experiment is by observing students with both high and low GPAs. With naturalistic observation, the student doesn't feel pressured to answer 'non-smoker' because adults wouldn't be observing them (to their knowledge). Majority of students are different outside of school, some seem to have two completely uncomparable personalities. Therefore, it's virtually impossible to recieve valid data from a group of students being questioned by adults or taking a servey issued by adults. This method of secretly stocking students is probably the most unethical besides actually scientifically testing the students for tabacco content against their will. The most ethical would be to have a large group of students in a room ranging in age, number of extra-curriculars activites, and of course, GPA. This will be your sample. If you have a peer hand out the surveys in form of a scan-tron, maybe the students would feel ensured that the test-takers' indentities will remain annonymous. Ask simple questions like, "whats your GPA?", "do you smoke?", "have you smoked in the past week/month/year?", "do you want to stop?" and "do you feel smoking effects a student's ability in school?" ect. This would be very clinical because barely any variables are manipulated.
Well I would study people's behaviors to discover who smokes and who does not. Then I would further study into those students grades, study patterns, test grades, and overall performance in school. From there id gather the evidence and create a conclusion off this. Through this method of gathering evidence it is most definitely ethical.
I think that the most reliable test method would be experimentation with this study, although unethical. It would give complete control over the subject by controlling the variables leaving no room for a bad correlation. By controlling a group of smokers, how much they smoke, when they smoke, and having the same performance to start with in each group and the kind of smoking they do would decrease the amount of bad data and increase the datas validity. This method is a little unethical because the experiment involves either finding teens with the same performance that smoke or do not smoke or controlling a group of all non-smokers and control who smoke which is unethical making teens smoke. - Jasmine Shaver
ReplyDeleteI would put camera's in all the spots where kids go to smoke i.e. the revere bridge, the pathway to the middle school... When we see who smokes then we can monitor their performance in school and compare that to non-smoker students who are in similar classes.
ReplyDeleteI think it's ethical, they're not supposed to be smoking in those places anyway but they do.
ReplyDeleteMeh...if you start saying theres a control group and variable group i think it would change the outcome slightly from the actualy outcome. if students know they are being monitored for smoking and how it relates to their school work. students may or may not try harder and study more because they are under watch. I dont really think there is a relaible way to conduct research on this matter.
ReplyDeletesorry my comments doesn't help much =[[[[[[
The most reliable research method would probably be taking the students who are smokers and observe their performance inside the classroom. Then compare the data you receive from that study to the data you get from observing students who don't smoke. I think this study is ethical because none of the students are being forced to smoke or do anything new to them; they are just being observed inside the classroom.
ReplyDeleteThe best research method would be to analyze the performance of kids over 18 who legally smoke and compare their performance to a control group of non-smokers over 18 years old. This way, age is controlled and only kids who already smoke are being asked to smoke. This is ethical because kids are not being asked to do something that they do not want to do. -Rahul
ReplyDeleteThe best way to find out if teenage smoking leads to poor performance is school is to allow students to take an anonymous survey. The survey will ask questions like if the student smokes and how often etc. The student will also be asked to put down their current GPA or cumulative GPA. This way you can compare the two statistics. This is ethical because it in no way harms the student.
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I'd say that the best way would be to observe the smokers vs. nonsmokers in the classroom. You could compare test scores, grades, and overall effectiveness in the class. This way is ethical because it doesn't harm the student.
ReplyDeleteIn this senario, it would be ideal to use a comibnation of the naturalistic observation method and the laboratory (clinical) observation technique. This could be done if the researchers were able to control which students they were putting in their group by monitioring thr students in their own environments while the students are unaware,infact, maybe the teacher could get invovlved. Therefore, they would be able to see who is successful and who isn't when it comes to academics. Then from these groups of successors and failures, the researchers may run tests in order to find out who smokes and the effects it has on them. Essentially this comibnation of methods in ethical becuase they are not impacting or affecting how the kids act in school and the research based on smoking is not making them smoke, it's just monitoring how it may correlate to their school work if they do.
ReplyDelete-mike majcher-
A naturalistic approach would be the best method in determining whether smoking inhibits a teen's performance in school. This is because, if a teenager is aware that he or she is being observed he or she may try harder in school than usual. The observers should select a population of smoking and non smoking teenagers of the same age and compare their test scores, GPAs, and attendance over a period of time. This method is ethical because the smoking teenagers are already currently smokers, so they are not being forced to take up smoking. This method is also ethical as long as the student's GPAs etc... are kept confidential to the observers and not the public.
ReplyDelete--Renee Smith
The best way to find out if smoking effects a students performance in school is to have a private survey to determine who smokes and how often they do it. Then look at the classes they take and the grades they acheive. The approach is ethical since the survey will be kept private for research only and does not harm anyone.
ReplyDelete-Stephanie Howell
The best way to research this topic would be in a naturalistic observation. This way the smokers do not know they are being watched and they will not change how much, where, what, and when they smoke. After careful observation, the observers should choose a group of smokers and non smokers to compare their academic performance in school. I would say this approach is ethical because it does not harm a student in any way.
ReplyDelete- Brenda G.
you could use any kind of grading comparison with smokers vs non smokers because it then in no way can harm the student/ test subjects, making the expirement completly ethical.
ReplyDeletebtw that last comment was made by me brittany jonas lol have to use da mamas email address thx
ReplyDeletei would perform anonymos surveys to find out what kids in high school smoke... then i would monitor how those kids do in school compared to the kids that dont smoke. I think its ethical because it wont harm the student or effect him/her in anyway, plus they shouldnt be smoking in the first place.
ReplyDelete-Christian Klinec
You need to use naturalistic observation because there aren't any variables to control and people lie on surveys. It's ethical because you're just capitalizing on them already smoking. You haven't influenced them to smoke.
ReplyDeleteIn order to conduct a valid and true experiment, you would need to come up with a way to find teenage smokers without them knowing so it wouldn't sway the results of the experiment. After you find the teenagers, you could monitor their grades and performance in the classroom to determine if the statement is true. This would be a naturalistic approach because the teenagers are being tested without being aware and going about their everyday business. I don't think this is very ethical, though, because teens aren't supposed to smoke, and some people analyzing the results may feel that the teens should have been punished. Also, grades and school performance are confidential, and this could be a intrusion of privacy.
ReplyDelete---Rachael Coleman
I would poll first to determine what the smoking population was, and then compare grades of non-smokers to smokers to see if there was a noticeable pattern or difference between the grades. This is ethical although it's likely illegal for most high schoolers to be smoking. As long as the survey is anonymous, then privacy won't be invaded. ---Kurt Russell
ReplyDeleteIt seems that there are two problems that must be solved to correctly obtain the information we desire. First, we must separate the smokers from the non-smokers without defying any student's rights. Secondly, we must find a way to obtain the grades of both smokers and non-smokers, again, without denying them their rights to privacy. Foruntately, both of these problems can be solved if the students, themselves, give you the information willingly. For this reason, I propose the survey technique. The anonymous survey can ask the students if they smoke or not and what approximate GPA they receive. It is true that the survey is probably the least reliable method and some students could lie. However, the false information should not conflict too greatly with your overall conclusion. Plus, this is the most ethical way to protect the student's right to privacy.
ReplyDeleteI believe the best way to determine if teenage smokers tend to have poor performances in school would be for a teacher of a class consisting of students from the same grade to pass out a survey in the beginning of the year. The survey would ask if the teen smokes and if so, how often. They could split the results into three groups: nonsmokers, mild smokers, and heavy smokers. Throughout the year pay attention to their attendance, test results, and tendency to finish homework. This way it is easier to see how much smoking can affect a school performance. Also it is ethical because you are simply observing and not forcing the students to do anything unwillingly.
ReplyDelete-Taylor T
The most reliable research method would be the clinical method. In this you can make it ethical by controlling the age of the student. You can take all the people over 18 so its legal and compare the hard-core smokers' grades vs. the once-in-a-while smokers' grades vs. the non smokers' grades. This will be ethical because all the students are legally allowed to do it.
ReplyDeleteAndy Heitmann
I beleive that the most accurate and ethical way to guage this type of debate would be to randomly select 18 and 19 year olds enrolled in high school or college, a certain number who don't smoke and the same number of daily smokers, from all different races, living areas, and family history, and monitor their scores in similar classes. This naturalistic method would bring out the natural performance of the subjects, which could be altered during a clinical or experimental approach, while covering all kinds of backgrounds of the subjects who can legally smoke. This is ethical because the student is not affected at all, so nothing negative will impact them, and also because the study is purely informational, there is no damage done by looking at their grades.
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I believe that the best way to determine whether teenage smoking can lead to poor performance in school is to conduct a clinical observation where some variables are controlled. I would obtain a sample of 50 teenagers with similar IQ levels and scholastic abilities and i would make half of them smoke for a period of time, and then i would make the other half abstain from smoking. I would also have the students take all of the same classes with the same teachers. Then, i would obtain their grades, and if the smokers had a substantially lower grade average compared to the non-smokers,i would say that smoking does indeed lead to poor performance in school. HOWEVER, EVEN THOUGH THIS METHOD OF OBSERAVATION IS THE MOST RELIABLE, IT IS EXTREMELY UNETHICAL! Therefore, a naturalistic observation or a survey would have to suffice.
ReplyDeleteby the way that last comment was by jessica liskay. i forgot to write it.
ReplyDeleteI believe the best way to find out if smoking leads to poor performance in school is through naturalistic observation. We could set up a camera in the bathroom to find out who's smoking. Then, send a "student teacher" to see how well they're doing in school. That was they won't know they're being observed, so it won't change their performance in school.
ReplyDeleteOh yeah, and it's ethical b/c we're just observing.
ReplyDeleteexperimintation through a survey. Ask kids what they think about smoking. And yes, this is ethical
ReplyDeleteI think the best method in this study would be to use students, who pass the age to smoke, and compare that to teens who do not smoke(having the same number of participants). Taking the two measurements of both the smokers and non-smokers can then be compared. It is ethical because in this method, we are using teens who are legally allowed to smoke. Though other extraneous factors may lead to an answer not 100% accurate,its still ethical.
ReplyDeleteOn Val's idea of a survery. You can survey if the student is a smoker or not, also obtain their GPA and such, but you cant gather when they started smoking or if it did affect their GPA. Moreover, if they are smokers it might be a cuase of poor grades, but maybe theres a reason why they started smoking, like family issues or friends; then it would the family issues or friends that are producing that student with poor grades.
ReplyDeleteTo Zouga, sure you can observe them in class =/
but being there as an observer will affect how they will be behave and thus changing the data.
Rahul's idea of using students that are 18 years of age, is okai to start with. But most kids that age are seniors and usually senior year is not as important as the previous 3 years where colleges focuses on. Colleges that does focus on all four years will be picking 4-5 GPA students who are most likey not smokers.
Rachel...just ehh. you can get data from their grades yes, but how will you kno who are the smokers and who aren't smokers. Just because a kid does poorly doesnt mean s/he smokes.
To Mike M. i like your way ;D thumbs up
but still how will you kno which one are smokers or not smokers untill you cross the line or a researcher and stalker x_x;; then uhhh getting the subjects in a ethical way is question =X
Just adding on to liz's idea of camera in bathroom. um camera in bathroom that crosses some lines. and student who smokes in the school bathroom obviously arent using their brain to begin with. and just becuz you kno that student is a smoker you still need to kno when he or she started smoking to see if his or her grades were affected or not.
ReplyDeleteA survey to me seems like the only way. Even if there are going to be misleading data but that shouldnt change the outcome too much. As long as the one or group create the appropriate questions on the survery. I.E. are you smoker or not? if so, for how long. Did it affect your grades. Did your grades alter becauce of smoking or another factor.
ReplyDeleteand have this survey sent a below average class, average class, and accelerated class to 5-10 schools per state. and this survery can be made either state level national level or golbal level. It's ethical because you arent forcing the student to take this survery so it will be on their own free will. I myself dont approve of this method much =X but it seems like the only option.
I would say that the best way and the most ethical would be to just observe the students naturally. Figure out what students smoke and compare there grades over the years to the students that do not.
ReplyDeleteAn ethical way to study this is by observing a student that is a regular smoker and a student that is not. If you can find out when the smoker started smoking, that would help. However, you would also have to take in the details, such as what kind of people the smoker hangs out with because stereotypically, students who smoke do other things that can affect their grades.
ReplyDeleteThe most effective way to go about doing this experiment is by observing students with both high and low GPAs. With naturalistic observation, the student doesn't feel pressured to answer 'non-smoker' because adults wouldn't be observing them (to their knowledge). Majority of students are different outside of school, some seem to have two completely uncomparable personalities. Therefore, it's virtually impossible to recieve valid data from a group of students being questioned by adults or taking a servey issued by adults. This method of secretly stocking students is probably the most unethical besides actually scientifically testing the students for tabacco content against their will. The most ethical would be to have a large group of students in a room ranging in age, number of extra-curriculars activites, and of course, GPA. This will be your sample. If you have a peer hand out the surveys in form of a scan-tron, maybe the students would feel ensured that the test-takers' indentities will remain annonymous. Ask simple questions like, "whats your GPA?", "do you smoke?", "have you smoked in the past week/month/year?", "do you want to stop?" and "do you feel smoking effects a student's ability in school?" ect. This would be very clinical because barely any variables are manipulated.
ReplyDeleteWell I would study people's behaviors to discover who smokes and who does not. Then I would further study into those students grades, study patterns, test grades, and overall performance in school. From there id gather the evidence and create a conclusion off this. Through this method of gathering evidence it is most definitely ethical.
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